Ultrafine Copper Powder and Nickel Wire Offers Are Pure Scams
This is a scam from the first line. The product is not what they claim. The valuations are blown up to fantasy levels. In many cases it is waste, mixed scrap, sand, or cheap aluminum wire dressed up with buzzwords. There is nothing to appraise and nothing to finance. The pitch exists to get you to show funds or issue an SBLC so they can pivot to a collateral grab. Full stop.
Why The “Metal” Is Fake
- No physical identity:
real metal comes with lot IDs, brand, and form that match market norms. These pitches show random specs with no batch linkage.
- No mass balance:
tonnage claims do not reconcile with packaging, pallets, or any loading plan. Photos are stock images or recycled from other listings.
- Wrong pricing math:
they quote values at high purity metal prices for off spec junk. A bag of mixed powder is priced like LME deliverable. That is fantasy pricing.
- Refusal to test:
any request for simple checks gets blocked. No independent XRF, no density check, no melt, no chain of custody. Because a five minute test exposes the lie.
The Playbook From First Message To Disappearing Act
- Big numbers, silly story.
“We control billions of ultrafine copper powder or nickel wire.” The backstory is inheritance, government allocation, a foundation gift. No invoices or tax trail. Just PDFs.
- Fake proof of product.
doctored assays, bogus MSDS, misused logos, and a “warehouse receipt” from a place nobody in metals has ever heard of.
- Proof-of-funds first.
they demand an SBLC, a bank comfort letter, or screenshots before any site visit, test, or collateral management agreement.
- Bullet program pivot.
if you push for verification they try to “monetize” the same imaginary stock in a 40 week program using your instrument. That is the grab.
- Smear and move on.
they bad mouth you in Facebook and LinkedIn groups, then recycle the deck to the next target.
The Social Media Noise Machine
Those groups are full of unqualified brokers and self titled intake officers. No last names, no company emails, no landlines. They claim to manage allocations bigger than the GDP of real countries. The “evidence” is a Canva brochure and recycled photos. Ask for a switchboard, a stock position on letterhead, or a fresh sample under your chain of custody. Watch the excuses start.
Do Not Appraise. Do Not Structure. There Is Nothing To Finance.
A real repo or borrowing base only starts after basic truth checks. Here the base claim fails on contact. No brand, no lot IDs, no chain of title, no recognized storage, no test under your control. You do not need a collateral manager list or a repo template. You need the word “no.”
One Page Kill Tests
- Chain of title in one view:
paid invoices, bank debits, BLs, customs entries, and taxes that match dates and tonnage. If they cannot show this on a single page, you are done.
- Switchboard call:
ring the warehouse’s public number and ask for a stock position on letterhead. Mobiles and webmail do not count.
- Sample under your custody:
independent pickup, sealed sample IDs, third party test you book. Refusal equals fake product.
- Pricing sanity check:
if they claim powder purity that prices near cathode, reject. If wire purity is unbranded but priced like prime nickel, reject.
The Hypocrisy You Will Hear
The same crowd calling this junk “trillion dollar allocations” will shout that investment bankers and private credit advisors are scammers for charging retainers. Professionals sign mandates and work through underwriting. These folks refuse a sample and ask for your instrument first. See the difference.
If It Were Real, You Would See This In Minutes
- Brand, lot IDs, and specs tied to batches, not a brochure.
- Chain of title with cash trails and taxes that reconcile.
- Recognized storage with a switchboard and people who answer.
- Independent test you control, not a PDF you are told to trust.
You will not see any of it because there is no metal.
This is a scam. The product is junk and the valuation is a fairy tale. There is nothing to appraise and nothing to finance. Do not issue an SBLC, do not share bank letters, and do not wire retainers to strangers. If they pivot to a 40 week bullet program, that confirms it. Walk away and warn your team.